Jack and Sue started taking C/W dance lessons in a bar in Portland, Oregon in 1978. One thing led to another and soon they were competing in couples and team competition, teaching, judging, emceeing and coordinating dance events all over the U.S. Jack & Sue are the founders of the Portland Dance Festival. They are also founders of the “Country Goes Caribbean” dance cruise with NCL and Celebrity Cruise Lines. They were among the original authors of the Western States Rules, and they were founding members of the UCWDC.